Everything Must Go!

Update – temporary support wall needed as soon as dining room ceiling removed. This is what is keeping the upstairs bathroom upstairs. All the joists are bowed, but the ones under where the tub had been are also split – we learned from the engineer that cutting a 2×8 joist down to 2×6 at the end to fit it into a beam weakens it to less than the capacity of a 2×6. That’s clear from the splits still visible in these even after the temporary wall was added.

Temporary support for split ceiling joists.

The conclusion from the engineer – these joists cannot be saved. The bow, the splits, the amount of sag, all add up to an expensive retrofit that would only modestly improve the angle of the slope of the floor upstairs. New joists are needed. The only way to put in new joists is to take out the old ones, which means taking out the upstairs floor, which means removing the upstairs walls, which means taking down the upstairs ceiling.

Since this is the last view of those rooms before they are rebuilt, this post is dedicated to a series of “before” and “no more” pictures. The “after” will have to come in a later post.

Upstairs bedroom before.
Upstairs bedroom demo – cut lathe indicates the walls were a “modern” addition.
Upstairs hallway, facing north, towards the stone wall.
Upstairs hallway demo – there were two layers of wall on both sides. Under the plaster wall built flush with the top beam was a previous plaster wall. In this case, it also looks like an old window had been bricked over.
Upstairs while there still is an upstairs. These rafters also need to be reinforced but that can be done in place.
Joists removed. The beam in the foreground is in tact, except where this plumbing was cut through, and has only a 1″ sag in the middle of the 19′ span. It’s above the wall between the dining room and the kitchen. The 2×12 beams across the dining room are temporary bracing.